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  2010 predictions!

  by bohm in

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  here are my predictions for 2010:.

  ted jarez will not pass away.

  this will prevent any major reforms or restructuring and very much make this another "buisness as usual" year.new light on blood: there will be an article on blood; it will change the blood policy in a minor way as to loosen it up, but that will not be explicitly stated.

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  You have now given the Governing Body a road map for

  2010. You are the source of new light.

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  Were you a JW that "bend" the rules?

  by Mr. Monday Night in

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  2. friends

  i knew a few jws (including some of my family members) who would go clubbing, concerts, play sports ,watch rated r movies and go to party's with "worldy" people.

  at the same time, managed to live life in the "truth" (such as field service, give talks, hold the mic during the wt study, etc.).

  were you one or knew a jw who was like that.

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  When I was an elder I refused to ask for $0.20 when selling

  the Watchtower and Awake. I saw R rated movies, and often

  just carried by Bible when going from door to door. I also

  made out with my wife at the hall one night when I was

  doing some work on counting the literature.

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  Cautious Newcomer

  by undertheradar in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i am still a member of the jw's organization.

  i have been puzzled over some of the teachings for many years but as i seemed to be the only one querying things among my local jw's i felt as if i was going crazy.

  i was very relieved to find this site, a few months ago, full of evidence to back up my findings, and so much more.. i am so grateful to you all.. i do not want to leave the organization until i have planted some seeds in my family to open their eyes.

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  Welcome aboad. Just a word of caution of asking to many questions

  to JW's. You could get into trouble. It is better to ask your questions

  to us. There are many active elders and former elders on this board.

  We answer and won't rat you out and get you hauled into the

  JWN library to sit in front of a tribunal.

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  " Millions Now Living Will Never Die" Ray Franz Thoughts from " Crisis of C "

  by flipper in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  of course this has been hashed and re-hashed as all of you know the feb. 15th wt is re-directing jw's to read the title of rutherford's talk as " millions now living may never die.

  " however in reading crisis of conscience a second time - i found it interesting to see what ray franz said about this quote.. remember he wrote this book in 1983 , so keep it in mind when reading his quotes about this " millions " quote.

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  Hello Flipper,

  The Witchtower Babel and Trick Society will do anything to make

  their members feel special. They have been lied to and mislead

  for over 100 years and still they fall for all of this verbal garbage.

  They are like the scare crow in the Wizard of Oz and they don't

  have the balls or the brains to look behind the curtain.

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  Do JW's Really Believe That the End is Near?

  by Sour Grapes in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  as i listened to the brother giving the public talk.

  sunday, he mentioned several times how close we.

  are to the end.

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  Elsewhere,

  I think that you have got a good point. They actually believe because a householder

  turned down an Awake magazine about wild flowers from a pimpley faced teenager

  that they deserve eternal death. They are killing people rather than saving them.

  Maybe the world should put big signs on their doors "no JW's because I want to live

  in Paradise."

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  Do JW's Really Believe That the End is Near?

  by Sour Grapes in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  as i listened to the brother giving the public talk.

  sunday, he mentioned several times how close we.

  are to the end.

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  As I listened to the Brother giving the public talk

  Sunday, he mentioned several times how close we

  are to the end. If JW's really believed that the end

  is a close as they say it is, then why don't they show

  this by all pioneering? If this really is a life saving

  work, does driving around in a car with 5 people as

  they go on return visits make sense? My wife went

  out last week for 2 hours with a full car group and

  talked to 1 person. If this preaching work is so urgent,

  why not every one take their own car and cut down on the

  butt time in the car or skip the coffee breaks or how about using

  the internet to preach. Maybe they are just pretending

  that the end is near in order to stay in the JW Club House.

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  "Yes!, Yes! Yes!", "No!, No! No!"

  by Quirky1 in

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  OK, OK, OK, OK, OK
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  What if there was "new light" that the 144,000 was symbolic?

  by Sour Grapes in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i really think that if the watchtower had an article.

  that had the new light that the 144,000 was a symbolic.

  number that the majority of jw's would accept this.

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  I have a question. What is the reason that the Witchtower Babel

  and Trick Society post larger numbers of the anointed every year?

  Wouldn't it keep the flock all hyped up if they reported smaller

  numbers every year? 8,500 in 2010, 8,300 in 2011, 8,150 in 2012, 8,000 in

  2013, etc. They could drop 200 a year and go on for 40 years.

  That would keep everybody in expectation because the number

  of anointed is getting smaller. I guess the real problem is in 40 years

  when then are only 10 remaining.

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  What if there was "new light" that the 144,000 was symbolic?

  by Sour Grapes in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i really think that if the watchtower had an article.

  that had the new light that the 144,000 was a symbolic.

  number that the majority of jw's would accept this.

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  You know what is really sad is that we on JWN know more about

  the JW teachings and what is going on, than those who go to

  every meeting. Maybe we are the future "new light" source.

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  What if there was "new light" that the 144,000 was symbolic?

  by Sour Grapes in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i really think that if the watchtower had an article.

  that had the new light that the 144,000 was a symbolic.

  number that the majority of jw's would accept this.

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  I really think that if the Watchtower had an article

  that had the new light that the 144,000 was a symbolic

  number that the majority of JW's would accept this

  hook line and sinker and just be in amazement of

  how the light keeps getting brigher and brigher.

  I think that the ones on the fence may fall off but

  that is about it. These fools (myself included) thought

  that the end was coming in 1975 and 35 years later it

  is just around the corner.

  Sour Grapes